
hi all, i am on a big design it yourself kick! i found this book month ago but just really started to dig into it. its call DIY design it yourself. the book is basically a creative resource for DIY projects from anything from blogs, books, business cards, cds, newsletters, web site, promotional pieces...whatever...if you cant find it in here, it inspirse you to make it on your own!
for me, its just been good to get the creative juices flowing and i am neck deep in a project that is totally DIY and if it works out, i will share...if not, it will be back to the drawing board.
got the book from urban outfitters and it is editted by ellen lupton.
Veronique:
Oh Jay I lovelove that book. I have had it for a little while now and it always inspires me so much.
(11.19.08 @ 09:44 AM)
Tanya:
This looks great! Thanks so much for putting this out there!
T
(11.16.08 @ 08:56 AM)
jason McGrew:
Sweet looking book. I just bought one on amazon. Thanks for the great recommend!
(11.08.08 @ 01:11 PM)
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i went for a run today and was thinking of my creative life before photography. i was really looking for that creative outlet that would satisfy. i was a guitarist and teamed up with bass player, song writer, brad nolan to create and original set of music.
it was a fun process but what is most interesting is the connection of how my journey as a musician and as a photographer are similar on many levels and different on a few. i think the most important and notable was the natural ability to create. i am convinced that photography comes very easy for me. i could be wrong, or perhaps i am faking it...but i feel like this is something i can do as well as anyone. music not so much! it was a complete struggle the entire trip. but i think it made the achievements that much more great yet i wish i had found photography sooner!
well brad has much more natural ability to create in music. he is doing very well with his music on many levels.
here is a song that we collaborated on and brad has since improved upon. brad has a nice sense of mixing and arranging. love the swelling electric in the back on this track...
brakelights.mp3
and one i had nothing to do with, but i like:
starts_right_now.mp3
brad is now in oregon and playing this weekend, details to be posted. maybe i should start shooting more music ;-)
it was a fun process but what is most interesting is the connection of how my journey as a musician and as a photographer are similar on many levels and different on a few. i think the most important and notable was the natural ability to create. i am convinced that photography comes very easy for me. i could be wrong, or perhaps i am faking it...but i feel like this is something i can do as well as anyone. music not so much! it was a complete struggle the entire trip. but i think it made the achievements that much more great yet i wish i had found photography sooner!
well brad has much more natural ability to create in music. he is doing very well with his music on many levels.
here is a song that we collaborated on and brad has since improved upon. brad has a nice sense of mixing and arranging. love the swelling electric in the back on this track...
brakelights.mp3
and one i had nothing to do with, but i like:
starts_right_now.mp3
brad is now in oregon and playing this weekend, details to be posted. maybe i should start shooting more music ;-)
kelli :):
the gift of creativity is the best isnt it!? and no, you are not wrong or faking it.....your gift of photography is truly inspiring! i love it! thanks for sharing it with al of us who read your blog and visit often.
your songs are vibey too!
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hi everyone! had a small mention in this months issue of PDN. i always look forward to the stock issue...find out what people are doing and who else is out there... in an effort to find a second agency beyond aurora, i first signed with jupiter/workbook which has been good, but wanted to keep my options open. i have always been a fan of uppercut images in the stock world and when they expressed some interest, it all fell into place. upper cut has been super easy to work with and look forward to future shoots and submissions.
the article is about who agencies are signing and why...wish that i had this article to read about 3 years ago. it is a pretty interesting read if your interested in this niche of photography and if there is interest enough from this blog readership i would shed some insight on how to get an agency contract.

the article is about who agencies are signing and why...wish that i had this article to read about 3 years ago. it is a pretty interesting read if your interested in this niche of photography and if there is interest enough from this blog readership i would shed some insight on how to get an agency contract.

Toki:
Hi Jay! I am interested too and would be so grateful to hear your words of wisdom on stock photography. Thank you and congratulations!!
(11.15.08 @ 10:34 PM)
Greer Rivera :
I am definitely interested in finding out more about stock agencies!
I live and work in the Caribbean and have tried to produce some shoots on my own, its just hard when you don't know what they're looking for...
I'd love to hear it if you have any more advice.
(11.08.08 @ 10:12 AM)
Kristin:
I would love to learn more about getting into stock photography. Please share!!
(11.06.08 @ 10:35 AM)
robert benson:
Let me make the post a bit more clear. Jay: Jose just called, and he's a little upset. Said you should call him to discuss immediately. (just messing. Congrats!)
(11.05.08 @ 09:33 PM)
robert Benson:
Jose just called Jay, and he's a little upset. Said you should call him to discuss immediately.
(just messing. Congrats!!)
(11.05.08 @ 09:29 PM)
andrew reilly:
PDN twice in the same year...pretty sweet!
(11.05.08 @ 04:39 PM)
stacy t:
definitely interested because anything you talk about is interesting. you rock the casba jay!
(11.05.08 @ 03:06 AM)
Arlene:
definitely keen for you to shed some light on the agency thing. Will have to try find the mag.
(11.04.08 @ 06:37 PM)
boone:
now i see why you mentioned that the nov issue was late! congrats, totally deserved. i'm looking forward to checking it out.
(11.04.08 @ 02:16 PM)
Sweet Jimmy:
Congrats on the article! I really like the photo of the young girl with the sunglasses.
(11.04.08 @ 02:05 PM)
anna:
Definitely interested as well! I'll have to check out that issue.
(11.04.08 @ 01:30 PM)
wale:
i have to go and check out the article. it's definitely something i'm interested in.
(11.04.08 @ 11:38 AM)
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congrats to melissa on the where am i contest below! most of all that was shot within 200 yards of the mamitas beach club in playa del carmen. send me your address and i will ship you a book! thanks for playing!
on to new shoots... here are a few of kara hamilton at the rosewood mayakoba. kara is an actress/model from san francisco. was invited down to mexico to shoot aurelie and brendan's fantastic rosewood mayakoba wedding which you can see at this location. 3 shoots in 3 days of mexico, glad to be back!
on to new shoots... here are a few of kara hamilton at the rosewood mayakoba. kara is an actress/model from san francisco. was invited down to mexico to shoot aurelie and brendan's fantastic rosewood mayakoba wedding which you can see at this location. 3 shoots in 3 days of mexico, glad to be back!
matt adcock:
amigo... GREAT stuff!
if you are ever in the RM again, please don't hesitate to call us. We have admired your work for a while and would love to collaborate together. We have many underwater projects ahead and are dreaming bigger than I'd ever imagined I would.... holler at us!
cheers,
matt
del Sol
(11.08.08 @ 06:57 AM)
boone:
so good man! love these images. also, i love playa del carmen, can't to visit again.
(11.04.08 @ 02:17 PM)
jay:
ha, delphine was serious...she said it twice!
fred - too bad, we could have grabbed a pacifico and fish taco.
(11.03.08 @ 01:37 PM)
delphine:
great pics as usual! She's very pretty and slim, I HATE her ;)
And while we're there, hate you to for taking gorgeous pics and travelling around! Cheers from New Zealand.
(11.03.08 @ 11:32 AM)
delphine:
great pics as usual! She's very pretty and slim, I HATE her ;)
And while we're there, hate you to for taking gorgeous pics and travelling around! Cheers from New Zealand.
(11.03.08 @ 11:29 AM)
FRED EGAN:
Jay, you were just down in Playa del Carmen this past weekend? So was I!
(11.03.08 @ 11:00 AM)
dennis axer:
wow, congratulations.
Could have fooled me. I thought I read french on the bottom of the billboard and saw a french flag in one of the boats. Haha, Viva Mexico. Very nice pics.
(11.03.08 @ 10:50 AM)
Eric:
I hate to admit it, but it's true; your camera is definitely bigger than mine ;) - All the best from Paris (France)
(11.03.08 @ 10:43 AM)
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hi all, well, i am on a fun shoot...can you can place the location? first person to comment and get it right wins a 5x5 aurora photos book! even if someone picks your place, pick it anyways...people have been known to change their minds! name the county AND city/town/beach...
if you know cause your hanging out with my wife, your not eligible to win!
if you know cause your hanging out with my wife, your not eligible to win!
robert:
I'm guessing the Island of Moorea ...
(11.03.08 @ 08:37 AM)
khadija:
St Martin or Curacoa ???
(11.02.08 @ 04:15 PM)
delphine:
don't know but what a cool place!!! Looks like the kiteboarding conditions are perfect too... which makes me very very jealous!
(11.01.08 @ 06:59 PM)
Desiree Smock:
Taking a stab at it....
Playa del Carmen (Xaman Ha' or Pláaya in Modern Maya) is a city on the coast of the Caribbean Sea, in the northeast of the Mexican state of Quintana Roo, located at 20.62° North, 87.07° West. The city is the seat of the Solidaridad municipality. In the 2005 census, the city had a population of about 100,383 people and it is rapidly growing in population. It is the third largest city in Quintana Roo, after Cancún and Chetumal.
(11.01.08 @ 03:10 PM)
Cheryl Johnson:
Looks so familiar - could it possibly be Southend-on-Sea, United Kingdom ROFLOL - ok maybe not :) Stunning
(11.01.08 @ 12:50 PM)
dennis axer:
Hmmm. French is a given...
Carabean or South sea.
Carabean would be St.Barth or St. Martin but no mountains in sight and a large surf board too.. Must be pacific ocean.
Tahiti, French Polonesian islands... but which one? Again, no mountains here either. Close to Papeete it must be.
(11.01.08 @ 07:11 AM)
Matt A.:
Either Melissa is right or you're across the water in Cozumel Mexico, northwest/west side of the island - but I don't know the exact beach.
(11.01.08 @ 06:46 AM)
MegganB:
I agree with melissa :) Playa del Carmen (Carmen Beach) in Mexico --- stunning!!
(11.01.08 @ 06:27 AM)
Jennifer Parke:
I think your in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic! The pictures are beautiful!
(11.01.08 @ 05:18 AM)
stacy t:
NYC? totally kidding - i have no idea but can i come with you? i'm a good coffee fetcher!
(11.01.08 @ 04:42 AM)
kribss:
whereever it is, i wish i was there!
(10.31.08 @ 08:35 PM)
Melissa:
...Looks like you are in Playa del Carmen on the Riviera Maya just south of Cancun...Solidaridad County. ...Quite possibly the Mamita's Beach Club?
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saving the point of destination for a fun blog game...but i am packing for somewhere warm and wet. location looks great and i am looking forward to the trip and shoot...but...thought i would share this packing tip.
when i am traveling for a shoot, i like to have all my necessary equipment fly as a carry on. in fact, if i can carry it all on, i am much happier. so i have a tamrac turbo cyber pro that is used for the location camera gear, while shooting. large enough and it also has a room for my 17 mac laptop.
the next bag i have is actually a tool bag/luggage. i found it at a home depot type of store. it doubles as a gear/clothing bag. in here i pack all the extra necessary harware that i might need and some overflow from the camera bag. on this trip, since i shooting underwater and around water alot, i am bringing my waterhousing and some speedlight equiptment in the tool bag/clothing bag. the bag is perfect for this because is has a hard shell(yet it is soft), has a handle and wheels fits in overhead. i might use some socks and tshirts to provide a little extra padding for the stuff that needs it like the water housing.
i also stuff a small lens bag in the tool bag and use it on location for smaller locaiton outings with simpler needs. all of this is carry on, easy, easy. the tool bag was cheap, like $30. but works great!

when i am traveling for a shoot, i like to have all my necessary equipment fly as a carry on. in fact, if i can carry it all on, i am much happier. so i have a tamrac turbo cyber pro that is used for the location camera gear, while shooting. large enough and it also has a room for my 17 mac laptop.
the next bag i have is actually a tool bag/luggage. i found it at a home depot type of store. it doubles as a gear/clothing bag. in here i pack all the extra necessary harware that i might need and some overflow from the camera bag. on this trip, since i shooting underwater and around water alot, i am bringing my waterhousing and some speedlight equiptment in the tool bag/clothing bag. the bag is perfect for this because is has a hard shell(yet it is soft), has a handle and wheels fits in overhead. i might use some socks and tshirts to provide a little extra padding for the stuff that needs it like the water housing.
i also stuff a small lens bag in the tool bag and use it on location for smaller locaiton outings with simpler needs. all of this is carry on, easy, easy. the tool bag was cheap, like $30. but works great!

whitney elizabeth:
wish i had seen your setup before i had to do a lot of traveling with gear :)
(10.30.08 @ 01:36 PM)
Dennis Axer:
Hawaii?? Surf is up so I heard. When wil lyou be back?
(10.30.08 @ 08:47 AM)
erika verginelli:
somewhere warm and wet...uhmmm...ok, you're coming Brazil!!!! yeah!!!! hehehe
(10.30.08 @ 05:21 AM)
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i am convinced that i am not loved at all. i have been on portable hard drives now for about 8 years and not one family member or associate ever says anything. in fact they enable me all the time...taking me to best buy, where larger and larger hard drives are cheaper and so easy to score. i would think by now, someone, other than myself would get to the point, where they might round up a few other digital asset management people and sit me down and conduct a real hard drive intervention.
you can see from the photo, years of hi resolution raw photography, there is no doubt, i am hard user. i have thousands and thousands of gigs of portable hard drives. there has got to be a better way...so, i have hit rock bottom. and time to turn my life around. please help me on my journey to healing. if you know a good system for someone like me, please share in the comments below. thanks.
or if you are in he same situation as me, you can just comment, "hello, my name is _____, and i am a portable hard drive user, and i need to change."
Betsy, La Vida Creations:
Hey Jay!
First time commenter here. Big fan of your work! AND, admittedly a digital storage junkie. Seriously, the RAID tower with exchangeable storage drives is the way to go. I just started this a few months ago and I'm wondering why I didn't do this two years ago, at the very least! Zip me an email if you want to hook up with my RAD I.T. guys. On Top of it all, they're Mac friendly too (don't know if you're an apple guy... ;-)
(11.14.08 @ 09:16 AM)
Ty:
Buffalo Tech Tera Station Live. Just installed one. Small easy to use. Can access files from server through internet no VPN required. Up to 4 terabytes of storage. RAID 5 setup. Four hard drives in a lockable storage box. If one hard drive goes bad simply open the box and pull it out. Awesome equipment
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage/terastation/terastation-live/
(10.30.08 @ 06:14 AM)
brian carr:
yeah, I've got a swag of h/ds sitting here, (including some of those(*^)*#&%@^%&^@%Maxtors,) currently filling a terrabyte every 6 months......I can't see any escape, what to do ?
(10.29.08 @ 06:29 PM)
Eddie Bojorquez (Studio 512):
Hello, my name is Eddie and I am definitely a candidate for becoming a portable HD addict. Wahat has helped me is to keep good DVD archives. Maybe that's way too old skool, but if they're well-labeled, redundant, and at more than one location, it's a pretty decent system. Hope that's any help.
-E
(10.29.08 @ 03:04 PM)
J. Wesley Brown:
And here I was complaining about how I've nearly filled my one 200 gigger...
My tip: get better at editing? Delete, delete, delete (but don't over delete...oh the pressure!)
(10.29.08 @ 02:45 PM)
Luis Murillo:
I built my own file server to store the information and filled it up with hard drives so the data is stored in standard format and not some proprietary way to store data so if the OS fails I'm still able to rescue the data from the hard drive. Portable hard drives are nice if you need to move them around often otherwise they're actually more expensive than getting a regular internal hard drive.
(10.29.08 @ 01:00 PM)
jay:
hey scott, the drives are standard drives that i can get anywhere, so i am not sure if you mean the hardware or the manner in which is formatted and the data is reading. but when i bought it, that was one thing that i wanted to make sure was that drives are standard drives that i can get anywhere and the data could be access beyond the drobo...maybe i misunderstood?
(10.29.08 @ 09:25 AM)
scott vickers:
I really like the idea of the drobo, seems to solve everyones problems... just heard horror stories about their proprietary format so if the actual unit breaks you can't just pull out the hard drives and read them on your computer.
(10.29.08 @ 09:06 AM)
jay:
thanks everyone! i just got the drobo system, and it looks like it meets all the needs! feeling pretty good about this and in the longrun a much more economical way to manage all the data.
(10.29.08 @ 08:57 AM)
Larry Marshall:
I also use a drobo and love it. Mine currently has three 750GB hard drives and room for one more.
Larry
(10.29.08 @ 08:42 AM)
Jason McGrew:
THE DROBO!!!!! You wont need anything else. Go buy yourself like 4 of them. I know it is a chunk of change.. but can you really put a price on being organized? Currently this is the cheapest place to get them: http://www.thenerds.net/DATA_ROBOTICS.DROBO_4_BAY_FW800_USB_20_STORAGE_ARRAY.DR04DD10.html?affid=1&affid=2&srccode=cii_5784816&cpncode=23-3667605-2
Also check out dealmac.com for the cheapest 1Tb hard drives.
(10.29.08 @ 07:57 AM)
Ryan Rowell:
Kathy had the answer. it is simple, BUY DROBO 2.0, it is FW800 and simple to use. it has happy little blue lights that say its all good, and it makes a great shelf for those daisy chained lexar pro udma readers. you wont regret the decision.
(10.29.08 @ 06:59 AM)
Guillaume:
hello, my name is Guillaume, and I am a portable hard drive user, and I need to change :)
(10.29.08 @ 06:48 AM)
Foster Cryer:
hello, my name is Foster, and i am a portable hard drive user, and i need to change.
(10.29.08 @ 06:36 AM)
Eric Hegwer:
#1 - Aperture - It knows where your originals are, and as soon as you plug in a portable HD, you are good to go.
#2 - Calculate how much storage you have now, and estimate how much you will use in the next 2-years. Then double it (so you can have enough for a complete backup.
#3 - When you are ready to change (emotionally and financially) get yourself what Rachel talks about - ABHNAR ( a big honkin' network attached RAID). Be sure it has hot-swappable drives, too.
(10.29.08 @ 05:35 AM)
samm:
hello, my name is samm, and i am a portable hard drive user, and i need to change.
(10.29.08 @ 04:54 AM)
Guillaume:
Same as you.... I am a portable hard drive user (14 HD until now...) and I am a bit lost to manage my files... So I print a index list of the content of the HD and store it with the Id of the Hard drive on a file.....
Cannot buy a server to save files, and the HD will be still on that server.. does not change a lot.
It's rumors only but people speak about Apple personal server "iBrick" .. maybe a good solution ( and cheap/easy) compare to a Xserve and Xsan.... :)
(10.29.08 @ 02:47 AM)
Rachel:
Looks like you need a big honkin' Network Attached RAID Storage Device. It's next on my list of purchases. My hubby is my IT guy, so I don't know all the details...all I know is that I want all my files in one place, secure (hence the RAID), and easily + quickly accessible, and he said that's the way to go.
(10.29.08 @ 12:21 AM)
Kathy Carlisle:
You can totally thank me later for helping you through this difficult time;) Go here...don't speak...just take a look and know that it has changed my life, and yours too if you give it a chance...LOL Check it out. Give your small drives a nice black shelter to live in. Nice to meet you on your blog. I adore your work and got your link from Tara. http://www.drobo.com/ Kathy
(10.28.08 @ 11:33 PM)
robert benson:
Stop fooling around and get something like this, a 24 terabyte harddrive (24,000 gig). It's only $45,000. Hell, get two!
http://www.zmicro.com/rugged-mass-storage/tranzstor-mtrs.htm
(10.28.08 @ 10:54 PM)
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so i have tons of people that walk by my studio everyday probably wondering what it is that i do! so i did not think was fair to let you guys have all the viewing pleasure...if thats what it is..or is not! so i started my blog door, or bloor...ok, i don't actually have to call it that...i like blog door better...but whatever...its just an ongoing door of printed proofs, polaroids injets, postcards, business cards. i suspect will soon take on a life of its own, but until then, i seem to be keeping it alive.
feel free to stop by, and comment. and as you can see from the image, my door does take visa, mastercard or discovery.

feel free to stop by, and comment. and as you can see from the image, my door does take visa, mastercard or discovery.

delphine:
Very cool! Great concept! You might launch a new trend - a new way of blogging. Bloor, funny.
I wish I could walk past your studio one day ;)
(10.28.08 @ 11:25 PM)
Anonymous:
soooo very cool.
(10.28.08 @ 07:56 AM)
erika verginelli:
Loved the idea Jay! Pretty cool! btw, I´ve had no news from the ITDR guys on the prize so far ;-(
(10.28.08 @ 06:20 AM)
Jess Wernes:
First it's blog...then vlog...now bloor. Wow friends, the future is here!
(10.27.08 @ 10:19 PM)
Zak Schwank:
How often will you update your bloor? So very rad! Better get the domain bloor.com!
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hi all, had a fun shoot with lyric street artist, ruby summer. tons of fun energy and warm light. also had the pleasure of shooting with cinematographer michel sandy. ruby summer is off to nashville for soon to record and i think michel is heading to document the production. best of luck guys.


Ruby Summer - Jay Reilly Photo Shoot from Michel Sandy on Vimeo.
www.rubysummer.com
www.lyricstreet.com
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Ruby Summer - Jay Reilly Photo Shoot from Michel Sandy on Vimeo.
www.rubysummer.com
www.lyricstreet.com
www.michelfilm.com
kelli :):
soo cool! reminds me of a "Free People" ad....sooo lovely! great job!
(11.12.08 @ 08:43 AM)
Ludia:
awesome pics, best weather, one of the best videos. I m a graphic designer from Greece.Very good work!
(11.11.08 @ 08:12 PM)
Sunny Wrigh:
Ok...can I just say I want to be you for a day? :) Really enjoy your blog. When you need a second...you give me a call. ;)
(11.07.08 @ 05:17 PM)
Debi Spindelman:
Digging the style, my friend. Pretty girls, Southern California autumnal in the best possible way.And bonus points for the car.
(10.27.08 @ 10:00 AM)
Michelle Moore:
Gorgeous! I love the warm lighting, and sun flare. What a gorgeous setting for such a lovely shoot of two beautiful musicians!! I love the video! What an inspiration for working with two people together at a shoot :)
(10.26.08 @ 11:35 PM)
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funny thing i came across when reading riviera this week. in the front under "the radar now!" they have a small piece call surf city sellout. i guess ohio-based hollister has capitalized on the surf culture and has firmed an agreement with the classic surf city Huntington beach, ca to have cameras mounted on the pier to beam images of so cal surfing life to every hollister store. Huntington beach stands to gain 4.8 million over 25 years and about $400,000 in marine safety equipment. hmm...a few really interesting thoughts on this relationship...
amazing some un expected kid, women, man would be filmed and used as promotional image for a company without consent, or a release to do so i would think that alone would be a deal breaker.
crazy to think that Huntington beach, arguably has some of the strongest roots in 20's era California surf town would allow it to happen and not be an authentic surf brand. money is king i guess, even in surf utopia Huntington
amazing that the equipment would not be vandalized to un-usable. surfer mag cried foul by saying "whoring out the hard work of the real surf garmet industry"...i am sure most are not excited about it
i think it is either genius or really slimy exploitation of the culture that i have grown to love and embrace as my own...
would i shoot for hollister...i am sure i would. but they have not called yet.
amazing some un expected kid, women, man would be filmed and used as promotional image for a company without consent, or a release to do so i would think that alone would be a deal breaker.
crazy to think that Huntington beach, arguably has some of the strongest roots in 20's era California surf town would allow it to happen and not be an authentic surf brand. money is king i guess, even in surf utopia Huntington
amazing that the equipment would not be vandalized to un-usable. surfer mag cried foul by saying "whoring out the hard work of the real surf garmet industry"...i am sure most are not excited about it
i think it is either genius or really slimy exploitation of the culture that i have grown to love and embrace as my own...
would i shoot for hollister...i am sure i would. but they have not called yet.
whitney elizabeth:
i am originally from NC and as a teen used to shop at A&F and Hollister because it was cool and everyone wanted to be like the kids in "cali." OK, so now that I actually LIVE in california, it seems so dorky!! And that kinda of bothers me that all these unsuspecting people will be caught on camera...
(10.30.08 @ 01:49 PM)
jay:
not too big of a deal, but it is a funny. they could have saved the budget for more lifestyle photography.;-)
(10.29.08 @ 04:43 PM)
Kat:
I'm surprised that this has surfaced now, since when I was in high school several years ago and was shopping at Hollister, I always saw the HB web cams projected in their main lobby. So, FYI, this isn't something new. This is just the first time we've heard about it.
(10.29.08 @ 03:51 PM)
Tonya:
I'm an old CA girl and yea, not sure how I feel about this. There are already tons of "cams" on pages all over the web that show such places as beaches, but like you said, beamed into a for-profit business seems to step over the line. I don't really blame Huntington, they see it as a big revenue stream, but I think they should very clearly label everywhere you could possibly be "seen" by the cameras so you have the choice of "appearing". And if camera areas ARE labeled, you just get a parade of Today-show-style wavers and screamers ("HI MOM!") and that probably isn't what Hollister wants. SO it doesn't seem 1) fair or 2) plausible.
(10.24.08 @ 08:22 PM)
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